A little insight.
I received an email from one who read some of my posts from here and asked me to explain my logic. I was not going to respond but I made a post some where else that responds so since I know they read my stuff I will post it here.
My response:
What I have been threw gives me personal insight into who and what these people are.. they taught me at age 9 they are sadistic animals incapable of compassion... I have seen/felt their true colors. I learned at age 10 to fear them... to fear for my safety. I learned at age 14 to run for my life....
I just hope people realize those who are in control are sub-human capable of anything to get what they want... at any price. I know what they are. The words do not match their actions..
I learned at an early age what the word terror really means at the hands of my twisted and corrupt government.... and the people who let them do this to us...
All I can do is pray to an invisible god that people will wake up and stop them before more of us are killed in the name of our own protection.
I know the true nature of government/upper-class... just how many more children have to go threw what I went threw and those not with us today went threw is up to the public.
The government has made it very clear they have no intentions of ending their terror on children and families.. it's just to profitable they have it in their heads it's their God given right, and if people die in the process.....of the government/upper-class insanity... they tell you you can send them a letter... if your still alive to complain..
How anyone can respect such people and call them leaders just make me want to vomit.
I am not Zeitgiest. :)
I am the government's child... and I am telling you they are complete and utter psychopaths...
The scars all over my body..my 15 year old shackle marks still red... the criminal record for protesting against them and trying to share with others about my time in the governments hands as a child and teen are proof. Their body count is proof..
This is what happens when people are to lazy to care what their government is doing and let absolute psychopaths call the shots... children pay for this corruption with their blood. I was almost one of them...but my sister Jenifer was not so lucky..... nore were most of my friends I grew up with in foster care and the streets while we hid in fear of our lives..
Out of 32 of us.. 5 of us are left alive today. But those who worked for the system and their children got to go to college etc etc..buy homes BIG homes all the while getting awards all of it comes ..... off the backs of defenseless children and the poor..
Just simply disgusting... and will not be forgotten of forgiven by those of us who survived and are still alive today.
I know that sounds extreme but your not the one who stood by watching the government kill his friends and family. I lived outside for 10 years scared out of my mind and traumatized by the government/upper-class.
I will never forget what they have done.. nether will any of my group. We know at the core of all this death and misery sits the upper-class and their deep discriminatory hatred of the poor.. counting their money while giving each other awards for this insanity. While we are left on the streets to die.
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I have seen this with my own eyes
I know for many this is alot to swallow. But I have seen and experienced this first hand... and not just a little, but for the first half of my life. then for the second I watched them do it to others... and have been punished for trying to stop them.
Bizzi
I believe every word you say! I've seen some of it from this side of adoption and some from adopted friends. You
have every right to feel the way you do. And people with their heads up their butts, and question you, should go further
into this than to wonder where someone is coming from.
"I can be changed by what happens to me, I refuse to be reduced by it." M.A.
One Step Up From Bottom
eddy
Barbaric hands
I'm not sure who/what this post is in reference to, since you mention a private email requesting an explanation from you.... but I'd like to comment on something you wrote:
I cannot count the number of conversations I have had, listened to and read about the roots of abuse. It's been my experience that most people blame the uneducated and the poor for the maltreatment of children. [As if to suggest people with power and money can't have tempers and vices that hurt and destroy?!? With money comes greater opportunity, and that includes all the negatives any one can try to imagine.]
I was raised in a very affluent town, and after a few exposures to the real world outside my a parent's home, I saw how power, greed and money corrupts those who have little and want "more". Just as a very simple easy example, I saw this "I want more mentality" at parties where beer (the "poor-man's party drink") got quickly replaced by grain alcohol, bongs and 8-balls. It didn't take me long to discover how a taste of the high-life can ruin a person's sense of sensibility.
If there is one thing I really fear, it's those who once had strong power, and then feel/fear their power is slipping. There is nothing more disturbing than seeing one lose control. It's scary as hell. Uprisings from angry resentful people are scary, too. So where is the safe middle-ground? Modification, I believe.
In a political sense, the fight for survival can be a treacherous thing, especially when the falling rulers are wealthy, selfish barbarians, completely unwilling to step-aside and let a new set of rules take over. After all, I believe the working definition of insanity is doing the same exact thing over and over again, expecting a different outcome. I can't think of many countries that can afford more of the same, when it comes to the treatment of children. So what can little people like us do? I think the victims are finally networking to figure this all out. Without insight from the dark-side, how can any family benefit from the services governments keep providing?
Yes, Bizzi... I agree, sometimes we have to pray to an invisible god, cross our fingers, toes & eyes and wish for the best : maybe one day child safety will actually mean something of real value to those who lead our countries. In the meantime, strength comes with numbers... so I hope the more voices we have speaking against corrupt child placement, the better chance children have for a better, safer future. [It may be too late for many of us older placed children, but that should never mean those who out-lived the rest should remain silent.]
Last but not least, I want you to know I think you're a good-man, Charlie Brown... your willingness to speak the truth about so many problems really helps me believe anger and resentment against something does not have to mean "destruction". [How much more destruction can any of us withstand? Isn't it time to rebuild, and use that as a general focus?] You are proving to me change is possible, and that change can be good. The next step is simple: find those who support child protection reform, and make child placement work FOR the child, not the government.
"If there is one thing I
"If there is one thing I really fear, it's those who once had strong power, and then feel/fear their power is slipping."
What a strong statement!!! And, in fact, it doesn't even have to be "strong" power; any kind of power that is threatened
brings retaliation against any and all who dare cause it to slip.
Take any kind of governing: the church for example. I've seen people truly believe that they own the "church;" or at
least the pew they have sat in for 40 years, or the job they have held in that church, plus their father before them.
The teacher who must control how my child is taught and will not bend to the fact that all children are not alike.
And once money is proven to be a sure thing then the power to control it becomes addictive.
I feel that's what Bizzi feels when he/she makes a statement against the rich and upper class when they are dealing with
the down and out?
"I can be changed by what happens to me, I refuse to be reduced by it." M.A.
One Step Up From Bottom
Teddy
Here's my logic.. Do you
Here's my logic..
Do you know of any poor people or people who were in foster care representing poor people or foster care or adoptees?
No...
The majority rules.. the majority that make up the rules are upper-class people. Not the poor.
When I, a poor person/foster care survivor says something to these rich people they tried to lock me away in a dark deep hole.
I know there are good rich people out there but look around they are but a small handful...
All the people who lynched me and stole my son called me a drug addict but refused to take my piss tests to prove I wasn't, then... the person who made the final decision.. the judge, also filthy rich.. said that because all parties signed the form they said my child was in need of protection from me I will never see my son again..
Did I sign the form? Yes... only after these upper-class scum bags forced me threw court with no lawyer and tricked me into signing it... telling me because I was forced to represent myself needed to sign it or court could not proceed. Well I never seen my son again... when I went to the upper-class "government" they told me get lost when I made a ruckus they tried to lock me away... thinking I had no friends they said I had mental issues... etc etc.. till I got a senior medical doctor with more letter at the end of his name then in it. Said I was just find and he would sign my bail release to back it up... Then the rich banned me off the internet and any electronic device I could use to get online to keep telling my story to others... about my time in care and how my son was sexually molested by his foster father Ian Whitecross. The rich/government stole me stole my son and abused us both... If it was up to me I'd take everyone of them and have them executed for treason.
To me there is nothing lower then the upper-class next to pedophiles of course.. in my world and my experiences in their world they seem to be one in the same.
This all okay and is 100% legal... because the majority said so... the majority again being the upper-class/government one in the same.
I have no respect for their kind... I don' respect lying thieves and child abusers....
I am sorry if I offed anyone I am just speaking from my heart and my experiences...
My last memory of my son at thee upper-class's hands was him grabbing his crotch and saying with such sadness in his eyes..in front of me and my other half..: "My foster daddy touches me funny in the bath".
I have said almost the same words at the hands of the upper-class as a child myself.
Funny how after everything is said and done...I was not the animal after all.. like the upper-class/government tired to brainwash me into thinking I was..
Trust me I could be stinking rich... I choose to be poor. I could never be rich or a member of government... and live with myself. How they do? I guess you would have to ask them.
I guess when the rich stand on top on the poor they don't really care what happens... as long as it is not happening to them.
I agree there needs to be a government of some sort...but this corrupt heartless joke run by these upper-class con-artists is not government or anything close to a democracy of any kind.
This is a out of control upper-class dictatorship.... where the poor are punished for existing... I just wonder if these megalomaniacs realize how close they are to bringing the poor to the boiling point...
We out number the rich almost 10 000 to 1.... perhaps if they spent less time counting their money and more time reading the history books... they would understand what the future holds for them if they stay on this path... there is only one way for all of us to reach the future and that is together...
I will take my own experiences as truth over what bullshit comes out of their mouths... actions speak louder then words.
"Poor" across the board
One of the things I have noticed from my own efforts... those in a better place of power than me admit abuse in adoptive/foster/children's homes takes place, BUT no one is willing to admit this as being important enough to offer mass media attention.
Perhaps, the thinking goes, "If we ignore it, it will all go away". If I were to grade the level of attention given to those who are/were abused post-placement, I'd have to rate it as being "very poor", failing many who need rescuing.
In some cases these childhood stories are indeed, going to an early grave. Who is the media protecting... children, or those who thrive in an enormous child placement industry?
Over the years, I have learned something even more disturbing than public/media apathy. Many adult adoptees lured by salaries from adoption agencies are not willing to take a stand against the corruption within the system for which they are working. Because their experience was not the same as some poor foster bastard, they continue to pontificate the virtues of adoption, claiming the only real flaw in the system is closed records. Once again, even among our "own kind" we are shown how the world works in terms of the haves versus the have-nots.
Bizzi, I agree wholeheartedly with you:
In this case, I don't think of "poor" as being just a matter of limited finances... I think of "poor" as being a reflection of the quality of care given to the children who were promised something better.
And like you, Bizzi, this system sickens me.
I think what makes me the
I think what makes me the sadist is the system in the end is made out of and run by people. Middle-class and above. And it's these same people who have to force the change and reform... Look around... better us then them. That is what their actions say. Stay silent.. get paid watch us suffer... The word civilized is the last word I would ever use to describe the people around me.. minus a small handful... Savages... cowardly savages... is all that comes to mind.
I know I am not alone in this understanding...
Coming from me an animal from the streets created by them... when I say that it should mean something... But if I had money it would mean something.... but I am not so that means I get no media coverage.. lol...fine by me... I am invisible to the government. Even after them now facing a class action lawsuit with myself and many many others. I still have no credibility. But once again.. I have to face the rich... in their court room their rules... and a lawyer I can not be sure I trust... Then maybe then.. someone from up on their pedestals might be honest and honorable enough to listen... My own lawyer has to do this by pretty much himself cause no one will help him..... I wonder why that is.
The poor don't deserve justice?
I WAS LOCKED UP FOR STEALING FOOD CAUSE MY FOSTER MOTHER WAS STARVING ME. THAT WAS WERE MY CRIMINAL LIFE BEGAN. Then they forced me to do community services for the rest of my teen life... that's if I wasn't locked up for trying to escape.. Civilized hu?...
Just 5 minutes alone with them... that is all I ask...
I mean think about it. I am
I mean think about it. I am only describing my childhood and teens years...
I mean can any of you tell me what it's like to be restrained by 4 full gown men when you just want to go home and it's killing you inside and your only 10?
I can... most of us long term foster kids can.
Some one please anyone step up and justify getting paid off this crap to me? Face to face.
I have offered public debates and they coward. I speak in city hall... and get dribble... political dribble... from peons with out a spine or a shred of dignity.
While they look down at me?
So far I think I have been quite civilized about this whole thing...
But I gotta tell you... as long as I know this is happening to other children... I am not sure exactly how much longer I will feel obliged to feel that way.
Even 4 of them when I was 10 was a problem for them... there was a reason they need 4 of them...with training... and I became an animal...
Well I am not 10.. I relized the differance from right and wrong... on my own.
So since I can not stoop to their leval.. I understand this...
So I will use the next best thing... my words... and my games. With no child, no responsibilities... I have long untill I am an old man.
The longer the system waits... the worse it's gonna get...
so all I gotta say... is ...
PUT DOWN THE MONEY BAGS AND STEP AWAY FROM THE CHILDREN!
I tell you if you don't like my logic... you better be careful... there are hundreds of thousands more little me's out there who are not learning the difference between right and wrong..in fact I think you might have already notice them... go to jail..you'll meet all kinds of us.
It's not my logic I would question.
You know what's scary?
Reading the following comment:
What you just described must be the very same thoughts many foster/adopted kids today are thinking as they are being subjected to Holding/Attachment Therapy.
I shudder to think what will happen if voices like yours continue to go ignored.
I don't. I already know.
I don't. I already know.
Holding/Attachment Therapy.
Is that what they call abusing the shit out of us now.
Wow that sounds professional and friendly and helpful... I wonder if they'd mind if I did that to help them out after all the "help" they have given me..
Mr. Bizzi
My heart weeps for your losses. I understand the loss of a child through a system that just does not care. I mourn with you for the loss of your family and then your only flesh and blood that was left. If you and I had money, this never would have happened. There are lawyers out there that do not mind standing alone for what is right; but those of us who do not have the money to pay such a lawyer, we lose what is rightfully ours.
"I mean can any of you tell me what it's like to be restrained by 4 full gown men when you just want to go home and it's killing you inside and your only 10?"
No, I can't, but you have made me aware that it happens and how wrong it is. Thank you for your open honesty.
"I can be changed by what happens to me, I refuse to be reduced by it."
M.A. One Step Up From Bottom
Teddy
In the end honesty is all I
In the end honesty is all I have to fight with. The system has made sure of that.
So let me ask a question... to the logic person. You say I am disturbed. Your very right I will not argue with you there...
But does what I said about foster care and my own personal sick and sadistic experiences and what you see in the media and on these sites match these foster care and adoption agencies and the government's words about foster care and their "charities" etc etc etc????
Foster Care 101
You and I know foster care from both sides and we see the middle as, corrupt as it is. It is run by those who,
IMO, are not people-people. You really need to like people in order to work with them.
Most of the people who had their kids taken from them and placed in my home (24 years ago) were described
(by these same non-people-people) as low-brow losers. So to begin with, WHO are these people, themselves,
that are working for the preservation of the family?????
SCREEN these workers! DAAAUUUMMM this is insane!
Next was the fact that most ALL of the ?social? workers were out to please the foster parents so they have places
to put more children so THEY can have job security and play god.
From the first child placed, i was told we would get to keep the child as the bio parents were low-brow losers.
Hmmmm.... MORE of the corruption of foster care.
MONEY always talked! Whether you are on the side of foster parents (I am NOT) or the biological parents (I tried),
or hopefully the side of the child (which I was) there was always the fact that WHOEVER had the money, got the child. EXAMPLE: The foster parents had the child for three years while the mother didn't get her act together... but because she
(biomom) didn't have the money for a good lawyer, her (pedophile) husband's parent's did and got custody of that little four year old (blond hair, blue eyed darling) where she had direct contact with the pedophile.
They all flew back to California with that little child screaming for the foster mother; the only mother she remembered for three of her four years of life.
WHAT ABOUT THE mother... she had three other children whom she kept. Why could she not have had her
youngest back with in-home services, and kept the family together? MONEY TALKS! WHO loses? That child.
The ?social? workers did NOT like ANY of the biological parents of ANY of the 12 children I had in foster care.
Honestly? Honesty is not a requirement to work in the preservation of the family. It's not a job where you are
even required to LIKE the children! They stay as far away from interaction with the children as they are close with
their INTERFERENCE with the family; constant in your face torture and being lied to...
I have made nothing up. Whatever I say on this forum is truth with no embellishments. The truth is enough.
"I can be changed by what happens to me, I refuse to be reduced by it." M.A.
One Step Up From Bottom
Teddy